Dev Interrupted
Software itself is fundamentally changing. We explore the transition to agentic orchestration, vibe coding, and AI-native development, grounding the conversation in the principles that have always defined great engineering.
On Tuesdays, we interview the founders, architects, and builders of the world’s most impactful tech to uncover the timeless engineering principles and strategies shaping the next era of development.
And on Fridays, we drop an end-of-week roundup of the biggest news in AI and software, and what it actually means for your career, your craft, and your life as a developer.
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Episodes
291 episodes
Teach the primitives or watch your competitor define them | Baseten’s Philip Kiely
If you aren't the one educating your users on the fundamentals of AI, your competitors will happily do it for you. This week on Dev Interrupted, Andrew sits down with Philip Kiely, Head of AI Education at Baseten and author of Inference Enginee...
Tokenmaxxing scoreboards, the vegan LLM from before 1931, and 30% of the web is now AI-generated
Are you at the top of your company's tokenmaxxing leaderboard yet? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben explore the controversial trend of "tokenmaxxing" sweeping through tech giants like Meta and Disney, as well as GitHub Copilot's s...
Giving robots a brain | Intrinsic’s Brian Gerkey
What if deploying a new capability to an industrial robot arm was as seamless as pushing an update to a web app? This week, Andrew sits down with Brian Gerkey, CTO of Intrinsic and a titan of the open-source robotics community, to discuss how m...
The harness is the showdown, the humans are the tool calls, and have you seen my Claude Code buddy?
Is the era of cheap, unlimited AI tokens officially over? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben walk through the sudden wave of AI pricing chaos—from GitHub Copilot’s panic-paused signups to Anthropic's confusing pricing tests—and brea...
The best model for your team? You haven’t invented it yet. | Ai2’s Tim Dettmers
Forget the massive GPU clusters. According to Tim Dettmers, research scientist at Ai2, you can build a state-of-the-art AI coding agent with what he calls a "hot plate and a frying pan." This week on Dev Interrupted, Andrew sits down with Tim t...
The self-authoring wiki, beating brain fry, and Obsidian as memory is a trap
Have you or a loved one been afflicted by "brain fry" after managing too many autonomous agents? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben explore the cognitive toll of orchestrating AI swarms and share Kelly Vaughn’s expert strategies for...
The guardian in the machine | Wayfound’s Tatyana Mamut
Are your AI agents quietly ignoring their guardrails just to get the job done? This week on Dev Interrupted, Andrew sits down with Wayfound AI founder and CEO Tatyana Mamut to discuss why traditional, deterministic software testing falls comple...
Reading model benchmarks like a pro, Mythos is looming, and Claude talk caveman, save big token
Is the secret to slashing your token costs by 65% forcing your LLM to speak like a caveman? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben test out a hilarious new Claude plugin that reduces AI output to primitive shorthand before diving into A...
Stop measuring AI adoption. Start measuring AI impact. | LinearB’s APEX framework
Are your AI coding tools actually making your team faster, or are they just creating downstream chaos? This week, Ben Lloyd Pearson and Dan Lines introduce APEX, LinearB’s new engineering leadership framework built explicitly to measure and man...
Virtual pets in your terminal, ads in your pull request, & no more CSS in your browser?
Are advertisements not-so-secretly infiltrating your code reviews? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben break down the controversy over GitHub Copilot injecting promotional tips into pull requests and unpack the massive Anthropic code...
Retrofit or reimagine? Developer environments for humans and agents | Ona’s Matt Boyle
AI agents have officially arrived on an internet that simply wasn't built for them. So how do we build the infrastructure to keep them safe, productive, and contained? This week, Andrew sits down with Matt Boyle, Head of Product, Design and Eng...
The T-shaped leader, Disney can’t catch a break, and will you trust Auto mode?
Is OpenAI killing off its viral video generator to pivot toward the enterprise market? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben banter over the demise of Sora and examine Anthropic's new Auto Mode safety controls. The duo then explores a ...
Why AI-assisted PRs merge at half the rate of human code | LinearB’s 2026 Benchmarks
Over 88% of developers use AI regularly, but AI-assisted pull requests merge at less than half the rate of human-authored code. In this episode, Dan Lines and Ben Lloyd Pearson break down the findings from LinearB's 2026 Engineering Benchmarks ...
Sloppypasta culprits, unpacking MCP’s spotlight, and Anthropic wants your agents to work the graveyard shift
Are rolling token blackouts and late-night AI coding shifts about to become the new normal for developers? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben explore the shifting economics of AI compute before debating whether the Model Context Pro...
Many tokens make all bugs shallow & open source’s new maintainers | Chainguard's Dan Lorenc
Autonomous agents are pushing deployment speeds to the absolute limit, but is our security infrastructure ready for the consequences? Andrew sits down with Chainguard CEO Dan Lorenc to discuss the severe supply chain risks of this new frontier ...
Inference is the new 401k matching and what we’re learning from AI-related outages
Are we heading toward a bizarre future where your engineering salary is paid in AI compute tokens instead of cash? Andrew and Ben tackle the latest tech industry shakeups, starting with Meta's acquisition of Moltbook and the controversial idea ...
Your engineers need an AI control plane, not more tools | Guild.ai’s James Everingham
Right now, a lot of engineering leaders are stuck in the same loop: rolling out AI tools only to watch their teams quietly drift back to business as usual. Andrew sits down with James Everingham, former Head of Dev Infra at Meta and current CEO...
The agent wasteland, federated workflows, and a computer for computers
Has the cost of software development officially dropped below the minimum wage? Andrew and Ben examine this economic shift alongside the rapid open-source growth and security implications of the OpenClaw project. They also explore Steve Yegge's...
How monday.com paused its roadmap for 30 days to hit AI escape velocity | Sergei Liakhovetsky
Pausing a product roadmap for an entire month to point 700 engineers at a single goal is a significant structural shift, but it transformed monday.com. Andrew sits down with VP of R&D Sergei Liakhovetsky to uncover how fixing core infrastru...
Draining the COBOL moat, cybersecurity inequalities, and Claude’s retirement home
Andrew and Ben break down a busy week on the Friday Deploy, starting with the market reaction to new COBOL tools and the permissions oversights that led to recent outages at AWS. They also explore the shifting landscape of developer productivit...
Your keyboard is the real bottleneck | Wispr’s Sahaj Garg
Your keyboard is the biggest bottleneck in your engineering workflow. This week, Andrew sits down with Wispr co-founder and CTO Sahaj Garg to discuss why traditional voice dictation failed us, and how his team is rebuilding trust by using conte...
Outcome engineering, AI hit pieces, and the end of the backlog
Is the traditional engineering backlog officially a thing of the past? Andrew and Ben explore the principles of outcome engineering and how continuous productivity is permanently changing how software gets built. They also examine a busy week o...
Dex Horthy on Ralph, RPI, and escaping the "Dumb Zone"
When the Ralph autonomous loop was born, Dex Horthy was "in the garden," witnessing the spark that set the AI engineering community on fire. Andrew sits down with the HumanLayer founder to discuss how to escape the "Dumb Zone" by applying his s...
Breaking GitHub, AI vampires & the great Oz | Warp’s Zach Lloyd
Did AI agents just DDoS GitHub? Andrew and Ben are joined by Warp Founder and CEO Zach Lloyd to discuss the massive strain agentic workflows are putting on our infrastructure and why the "Monday Morning Commit Spike" is the new normal. They als...
Multi-agent orchestration in Slack | Saleforce's Kurtis Kemple
Is Slack just a chat app, or is it becoming the command line for the agentic future? Andrew sits down with Kurtis Kemple, Senior Director of DevRel at Slack, to discuss the platform's evolution into an "agentic work operating system" where huma...